Jeffrey: Success feels good. I was just making a good living. He more recently served as a consultant on The Blacklist and currently consults on TBS' Full Frontal With Samantha Bee. Some of that apply to me. The point is you’re not afraid at 33 to say what you think. Peter: I love it. You’ve taken huge risks and you’ve done it before. The way I’m thinking about this, this feels important to me and I saw it. You posited a hypothesis that I have been talking about to this day. The studio has produced live musicals for the network three years in a row, starting with The Sound of Music Live! No one in my neighborhood could afford to go to Florida. The way in which the characters of Mimi and Roger meet each other and start to fall for each other with the song Light My Candle was a sound I never heard on Broadway before and it touched me. Let’s do something and then I’m recruiting people to do it with. If you don’t, goodbye. Jeffrey: It’s a delight. For more information about the Bregman Leadership Intensive, as well as access to my articles, videos and podcasts, visit PeterBregman.com. I’m going to paraphrase it and you’ll tell me if I got it right which is that if you’re willing to feel everything, you can do anything. How do you know if something’s going to be big or not big?” That’s when he introduced me to the book Fooled by Randomness. He is a restaurateur. We have a different kind of podcast for you today or at least a different kind of guest. I am “CEO of Hamilton” and yet I am driven first and foremost by my feelings. Jeffrey: I love it and I believe it to be true. Jeffrey, you show true leadership in the work that you do. I’m about to have my call it seventh through eighth opening night on Broadway where on the day of the opening I can’t eat. Like there wasn’t one family going to Florida. It stuck for all of those reasons and it has great applicability. Peter: How did you know that this is the role that you wanted to play in theater? I actually think it’s profound and I think it’s something that the hundreds of millions of business books that are out there that are all saying the opposite which is “here is your path to success” and then people read them and you wonder: why aren’t all these businesses successful? The edge that you’re walking is you’re not doing what every one else is doing and yet you’re not so out there that people can’t absorb it. We are in the business of doing this and I can tell you we don’t know how to do it any better than anybody else.” It’s exactly what you’re saying which is you follow your gut and your instinct and what you know to the best that you can. Peter: How did you know the role you wanted to play in that room was CEO, was producer, was the guy that pulled it together? If you’re not willing to feel, you’re not going to be able to lead in that way.

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